As per Teacher Tara's recommendation, who has encouraged me to move this writing of mine from the ‘comment’ to my Blog Post. As I wrote especially for the person who made her interest on her blog post for everyone in MyEC, so here it is as below;

Firstly, I would like to tell you all, that I have earnestly & truly confronted some dilemmas myself due to having improved my English much lesser than what I expected and something like staying in the very same level for a long time without any future improvement, just like being frustrated in my determined ambition. Hence, that’s why I’ve actually joined in My English Club to improve my English better & fluently in writing & speaking with a full of comprehended knowledge within the English language & skills, just like a native speaker.

So this following issue was recently brought up and turned into my attention as to think through and to readjust once more, when I corresponded with one of my recent friends who has become my new friend as soon as I joined here in MyEC at the early stage (going back to the early February this year), and left a message for me very first. So I would like to share with you, and I will be most grateful if you would kindly write any comment with your personal opinions or any point of your own views as well. I would like to see anything in everything if possible, whether you agree or disagree with me; -

In fact, we all are trying to learn & improve our English better, aren’t we? Many people believe that the one to one or group conversations may give more opportunities to improve better English, but personally I don’t agree to it. All children from their infant childhood, they objectively learn the language with natural inborn & learning ability by ear, but the grown people have neither the natural learning ears like babies, nor the capabilities to learn the language objectively with the certain comprehension in all its aspect (Certainly it wouldn’t be natural in learning process). This will be very limited ways of learning in process and the learning progress will be very slow in understanding if you haven’t learned English properly with the basic learning process from the scratch. Hence, they must be only in capability of learning the language subjectively starting from the grammars by the books, or by looking at the dictionaries, or by the English teachers. Honestly, I don’t know what the Language scholars talk about this but this is what I have experienced & understood so far.

To a certain extent or degree, I agree to it. So I think that talking on the phone or voice chatting or group talking will be greatly helpful only for those who are aiming to improve their speech in speaking. Nevertheless, I think that this won’t make you improved your English in writing dramatically. Improving Writing & Speaking is totally consisted of two different things in place as considering certain questions in all its aspects. To improve your English vocabularies in speaking is very limited but for a certain degree, of course, you will definitely remember and gradually use certain words in speaking, hence it is essential & absolutely necessary that you need to practice daily how to speak and how to choose the right words in conversation, more & more. These will, that is, initially improve your English in progress. To conclude my opinion right now, writing is like a foundation or a principle. If this basic foundation (as a principle, basic grammar, speech pattern, dialogues & so on) of your writing ability & standard level is well constructed, your speech in speaking will automatically come out with a right manner and good forms in respect, and this may naturally enable you to express yourself certainly with the better English in conversation.

Please don’t get me wrong. English is not my first language at all and I have actually made so many mistakes, maybe grammatically incorrect or not using with the suitable (or correct) words for the right expression.

When you are having a private conversation with someone on the phone(or man to man) or whatever the communication channels you are using in voice, people generally do not correct your mistakes and you yourself don’t realize what you make mistakes in speaking either. Hence, you are hardly learning & improving your second language in comprehension, and you will have same mistakes again & again without any recognition of mistakes in error. Even the MSN messenger chatting in writing is almost identical with the voice chatting (but it will be slightly better because it gives you more time to think & to be able to correct yourself whilst typing). And they used to always be a short & simple note just like a memo (as a broken English writing). However, you may be able to certainly or possibly recognize at least some mistakes either when you write or when you read it again, and people may be kindly enough to correct your mistakes if you don’t mind it or you ask for it, so it is possible and there will be a great potential that you can improve your English in writing and also in speaking afterwards.

In fact I’ve never ever written such long messages in my entire life until just before I joined in My English Club and I have communicated more with the members in e-mail system or other e-mails (Google mail / yahoo mail / hotmail). So I have been beginning to write longer messages by all means, expressing myself anything in everything as exposing myself what impelled me to thus boldly. Whether I do correctly in the right direction or not, this is another home work for me to resolve myself, but I’ve been so wonderful that I am able to at least write longer messages than before. Please don’t misunderstand me. Believe or not, frankly, I am trying neither to impress all of you (If I intended, what benefits & advantages I obtained? It’s absolutely nothing at all!), nor to express thus myself in boasting but I hope that you will take it as my personal testimony. It’s up to you how you would observe this principle of how to learn English fundamentally in a conservative way, but this is what I’ve learned and improved my English dramatically.

However, many people such as Chinese, Japanese & Korean (or somewhere from Far East) have been learning English from the early youth at the school but only grammar not spoken English. We used to have had the very same problems in Korea as well, and I was one of them whose have had 'Dumb English' as they called. I used to have studied in English from my junior school until the university, and then I came to UK to study further educations. At that time I couldn't even say 'Hello' to anybody, and I consistently worried about me (myself) and kept thinking ‘what am I going to do with me now?’ So I know their situation very well, but still they cannot improve their English by the chatting/speaking/listening only. They have a preconception or a fear of English, so they should overcome against these hindrances by learning English again from the scratch, because what they learned their English must have been incorrect. Basically, they have to learn English from ABCD Alphabets first, because their pronunciations must be terrible (if I may say). They should be able to have at least similar English pronunciations in speaking (it has to be as closer as possible, so you need to practice), otherwise, their listening comprehension can neither be improved nor in speaking. You know, I used to be like that, so I had to correct myself in my early day in UK and I have been learning & trying to improve my English from the scratch since then.

I totally understand what other peoples have really concerned about, but their problems are not directly related to my above opinion. When I say writing practice is more helpful than speech practice, I mean that communicating letters/messages (men to men, one by one) just like conversational writings, but not writing essays or reports, because these conversational writing practices give you more time to think through and make you enabled to use the right vocabularies in writings, then later, you could be surprisingly & apparently able to have a proper conversation with anyone in English. This is basically how to improve your English better, and the top of this you can now practice your English in speaking, then gradually you will see the future improvement in writing & speaking with a great potentiality.

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  • Hi, Idealist!

    I don't know if you really want me to continue calling you 'Idealist', hahaha! However, it wouldn't matter who you are & what you are, because we both are learners & want to improve our English fluently in writing & speaking. Therefore, as there is a principle of how to learn & to have better language skills, we should follow this principle with our efforts & determinations so that we will see a gradual or dramatic improvement sooner or later.

    However, you seem to have a good reputation & great potentiality in learning English, so not too far to go....., all you need to do is to keep thinking for yourself positively & to carry on practising with your writing/speaking as normal, wherever you are, then I am sure that you will certainly develop your confidence more tightly & firmly in respect.

  • Thank you james, i totally agree with you ~~

    we have a perconception and a fear of english speaking~~ i though that's because of not being good at englishg , you know, the basis of confidence is knowledge~ i don't think i have enough capability of speaking english with other people.... also ,may be afraid of humiliation.

    so, fear to speak--lack practise--be worse of speaking--be ashamed to speak much.... and so on and so forth. hence, that cause a terrible circle....

    anyway, it's time to face to my dilemmas of learning english.... hehe :)

    glad to know you ~ and thanks your share again!

  • HI, Larisa!

    How a good compliment I received from you! Thanks so much for your good compliment & encouragement! I feel really grateful to you. 

    Conversational writing as 'a stream of consciousness' or 'a delay tactic in expressions' is actually the key in principle, which has helped me for my English improvement in writing & speaking, hence I should say, 'the more you will write, the more better English you will speak'

    Of course, not, but rather I will be the most delightful person if you would show my writing to your students, and it will be my honor & great pleasure. 

  • Hi James,

    Your post is really good and helpful for other learners of English. Thanks for sharing it. It was really interesting to know how English is taught in your country. Unfortunately, it is the same in my country.

    What time did it take you from your "Hello" to writing such a story? Learning a foreign language is a difficult work. But as I see you are hard-working and your great ambition is to speak like a native speaker. You've chosen the right way to your goal. The better you will speak the better you will write.

    Do you mind if I show it to my students? I am sure it will be a good example to them that nothing is impossible.
  • Hi, Aynur! I think the pronunciation is a first step to go through, as it's because this directly links with the listening & speaking comprehension for the second language in learning & improving step by step.The most helpful tip for me to have similar pronunciation, I could think of, is when I used to sing English songs, I am sure it was greatly helpful for me.
  • Hi, Adam!

    Yes, sure, and I am so sorry if this was a lot for you to digest all in one or once for all at this very moment of reading this blog. Please take a time with your own pace in reading and come back when you fully understood all, and then comment your own thought with your need or opinion.

    Thanks for your comment anyway!
  • Hi, my new friend, Judith!

    I am so glad that it's useful for yourself and that you seem to have had the very same experience which I used to struggle myself to write or express in English what I really wanted to say as same as my own native language, but I used to spend too much in thinking & looking at the dictionary for the right expressions, as it seemed to be in fact much worse frustrating than writing a college essay or report in English.

    On the other hand, the listening comprehension must be very closely combined with the correct pronunciation just like 'the acid combines with the alkali', that is, if you are not able to properly & correctly pronounce the sentences or wordings with your own expression in principle, I don't think you are capable of understanding fully the whole things what you are hearing besides the unfamiliar & unknown words (but if you are capable of pronouncing every words in the right direction, then at least you know what you are looking for the meaning in the dictionary).

    However, for the practise of how to pronounce in English (AE: American English or BE: British English), I've found a very good website. So here it is; http://www.freeenglishnow.com (you need to use 'PDF file' rather than 'TXT file' and choose either a icon of AE or BE). This is what I used to have been practising and correcting myself for the correct pronunciation in understanding.

    Enjoy your day! Take care!

    Your friend,
    James
  • Hello James:)

    Great blog, it have been so useful for me, thanks for sharing your experience, I can say for me the most difficult skill has been listening, I love read so I think my writing it's not all bad but before when I was trying to explain something all the time I was trying first to traslate in my native language so when I noticed it has elapsed too much time and I almost had forgotten that I was trying to say, so that was too embarassing, sometimes I felt myself like a fool but with the practice I think I have improved a lot so now I try to think in english also it has been so useful to talk with others that it have developed my self-confidence and I feel free to express my opinion and to ask them when I not understand them .

    The educational instruction at school is very important we have to learn the rules in order to become a good speaker to talk properly and fluently but the practice is the basic foundation for good performance in learning another lenguage.

    Take care friend.

    Judith
  • Hi, Grace!
    Thanks for stepping in and leaving your sweet comment.
    I am sure that you will succeed to achieve your goal sooner or later if you would manage yourself practising as much as you could, as this is how I've been doing even at this very moment. Enjoy yourself & take care!
  • Hello James,
    Many thanks for your valuable post of your experience.
    I'll take your advice and practice more as possible as I can.

    Have a good day.
    Grace
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