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Hi ! I am Dung. I am a new member in this web. I have just read all the comment. I think it is usful for me. I want to ask u a question. I dont know the way we use the word "dear". Some people told me that " my friend dear" or " my dear" ... and I dont understand why they use like that. Can u help me?
Thanks for all! ^^
Hi! Tanya
This group discussion is absolutely helpful for us. Do you think writing skill is the strong key in English learning?. Because whenever learners write well, their vocabulary and grammar will be improved accordingly. You have any method to advise us to be good writer or any website for writing learning? It's so nice to refer from you.
Besides, when you speak about money, it's better to use the expression "have got". Let me show you the difference. Here are two sentenses:
I haven't got much money ( means "now", "these days" or something like that)
I don't have much money ( means "usually", "always", "I am poor" or.... because The Present Simple Tense describes regular action)
Is that clear?
Tanya said:
Dear Mir! Use see, the word "money" is non-count noun. It is collective noun like "fish", "food", etc. That is why we say "How much money....". As to the word "dollar", it is count noun. So, we say "How many dollars....". Sure, we don't use such an expression. It is just to demonstrate the difference.
Mir Jalal said:
THANK YOU for your previous reply.
How much is used for uncountable noun, then why we use how much for Money as it is countable.
"at the moment" and "now" are 100% synonyms. So, you can use any of them in The Present Progressive. As to the Past Progressive, we use only "at the moment" or "at that moment". Then, "right now" and "right away" are also 100% synonyms and their meaning is almost the same as "now". They are more emotional, so to say. So, we can use any of these four words in the same sentense. As to "just now", its meaning is a little different. "just" is more typical for the Perfect Tenses. Its synonym is "only now". I don't believe, I can explain the difference between "just now" and above-mentioned expressions but I'll try. It means that some action or event or...hasn't taken place before the moment when you are speaking and it is taking place only now. I am not sure it is clear. So, let me give you some examples.
I am typing at the moment (now, right now)
I have started answering your question just now. ( means I haven't done it earlier)
Do you feel the difference? Hope so.
As a matter of fact, I haven't answered your questions earlier because I haven't noticed them! I am really sorry. I have to be more attentive. There is one more thing I'd like to say. If you, or someone else, have questions related to vocabulary (i.e., how to use some words), please, place them on the page "English synonyms", OK?
Mir Jalal said:
When we use at the moment, now, right now and just now in Present Progressive?
Dear Mir! Use see, the word "money" is non-count noun. It is collective noun like "fish", "food", etc. That is why we say "How much money....". As to the word "dollar", it is count noun. So, we say "How many dollars....". Sure, we don't use such an expression. It is just to demonstrate the difference.
Mir Jalal said:
THANK YOU for your previous reply.
How much is used for uncountable noun, then why we use how much for Money as it is countable.
Dear Kieu! That is a good question. Many people do such mistakes. So, let me explain. Most of adverbs can be placed either before (or inside the predicate, it depends on the tenses) or after the complements. In your examples, the second and the third sentenses are correct. The first ones are incorrect in both examples. Let me show you where to place an adverb in different tenses.
Simple. I easily found her house or I found her house easily.
Progressive. He was still thinking what to do. ("still" can be placed only inside the predicate)
He was impatiently waiting for her or He was waiing for her impatiently
Perfect. I have never been there ("never" is used only inside the predicate)
Perfect Progressive. I have already been living here for 2 years (in American "already" is used like that. In British it is used at the end of the sentense)
As you can see, there are some adverbs that we use only inside the predicate. They are: often, usually, generally, seldom, rarely, sometimes, never, ever, just, already, still and maybe a few others.
There are also some adverbs that can be placed only at the end of the sentense. They are: lately, recently, yet. For example:
I have seen him at the exhibition recently.
Besides, if you use the words much, little, a little as adverbs they can be placed only after the complement(s) or after the predicate if there are no complements in the sentense. For example:
He drinks much. (there is no complement in this sentense)
She speaks English a little.("English" is a complement)
Besides, I want to say that there is no need in comas in your examples.
Hope, I've answered your question. Please, feel free to ask any others.
Kieu said:
Hi Tanya, I have just read all the comments of this useful discussion. Especially, I like the way you explain and teach us is very clearly, so could you please explain for me the postion of adverb (how an action was done) below? Sometimes, I have placed the wrong position for it and was confused where to put it correctly.
For Example:
She sang beautifully the song, last night.
She sang the song beautifully, last night.
She beautifully sang the song, last night.
My father repaired carefully the car for me, last sunday.
My father carefully repaired the car for me, last sunday.
My father repair the car carefully for me, last sunday.
I don't know exactly where to place correctly the adverb.
Dear Volkesmom! You haven't made any mistakes. In the sent. 5 you just ommited "from other countries". However, I have to say that in the sent. 4 we can also say "others" (it means that we don't specify those books and just say that these books are not right for him).
Same about sent. 8. In the sents.7 if you say "the others" it means there are limited number of the chairs (like in the room or in the store where you are buying them at the moment). In the general case it is better to say "others".
Thank you so much for your explanation. I understand it better now than before. I would try to answer these questions but I am still not sure if I answer them correctly. Need more practice to understand more.
An exersise.
1. This реn isn't working. Please give me another one.
2. If you are still feeling thirsty, I'll make another pot of coffee.
3. Two cars in the yard are white, the others are of different colors.
4. He doesn't need these books, he needs the others.
5. There are 7 students from Japan, others are from Iran, and the others are from places.
6. The water in the glass is warm. the other in the jug is icy.
7. This armchair is more comfortable than the others .
8. I need not this but another book.
9. Your composition is good. the other ones are much worse .
10. The soup in my plate isn't tasty. I should add some salt to the other in the pot.
Hi! Let me answer your question. As a matter of fact it is really confusing to use those words. Explanations in your book are right but they may be not quite understandable. Let me explain it somehow differently. First of all,the word we use depends on noun (singular, plural, count, non-count). Besides, it depends on the situation. Let's consider three different cases.
1. count singular nouns.
a)we use another if we mean any other object of the set. It means that we have at least three same objects. For example:
She came from another city (there are many cities and we don't spesify what city she is from)
b) we use the other when we mean spesific object, i.e the last one of the set. For example:
I have two friends. One of them is Nick, the other is Jack.
I have 3 children. One of them is in the 3d grade, another is in the 6th, the other is a student.
2) Cout plural nouns.
a) we use others if we mean some part of the set. For example:
Some people in my country speak Russian, others speak Ukrainian (there are also people who speak other languages. I can't use the others in this sentense)
b) we use the others when we mean the rest of the set. For example:
There are 5 people in the room. Two of them speak Ukrainian, the others(the rest 3 people) speak Russian.
3. non-count nouns.
a) we use other meaning the part of the set (not all the rest). For example:
This water is dirty. I need other (some other but clean)
b) we use the other meaning all the rest. For example:
The water in the glass is warm. The other in the jug is icy.
We can use these words as nouns or adjectives. For example:
I don't need this book. I need another. (noun)
I don't need this book. I need another one. (adjective)
These cars are new. The others are old (noun)
There cas are new. The other ones are old (adjective)
Please, pay attention to the endings in the last two examples.
As to the sentense you wrote the right use of the words is:
another, another, another, the other
I hope I've answered your question. If not, I'll try to do it again. I will place an exersise here. Try to do it and I will check it out. Please, feel free asking other questions.
An exersise.
1. This реn isn't working. Please give me .
2. If you are still feeling thirsty, I'll make pot of coffee.
3. Two cars in the yard are white, are of different colors.
4. He doesn't need these books, he needs .
5. There are 7 students from Japan, are from Iran, and are from places.
6. The water in the glass is warm. in the jug is icy.
7. This armchair is more comfortable than .
8. I need not this but book.
9. Your composition is good. ones are much worse.
10. The soup in my plate isn't tasty. I should add some salt to____in the pot.
volkersmom said:
Hi Tanya... I am amazed that you are willing to help us with our English for free. And I love the way you explain things. It's easy to understand your explanation. I have a problem understanding Forms of Other.In my grammar book it says that:
* Form of other are used as either adjectives or pronouns
* The meaning of another : one more in addition to the one (s) already mentioned.
* The meaning of other / others (without the) : several more in addition to the one (s) already mentioned.
* The meaning of the other (s): all that remain from a given number; the rest of a specific group.
I don't really understand how to use them. I am a bit confused. Would you explained to me more about this?
What kind of form of other do we use in these sentences:
1. Look at your hand. You have five fingers. One is your thumb. .................. is your index finger. ..............one is your middle finger. ................finger is your ring finger. And ................finger (the last of the five) is your little finger.
Would you explain to me when do we use other, others, the other, and the others.
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Thanks for all! ^^
This group discussion is absolutely helpful for us. Do you think writing skill is the strong key in English learning?. Because whenever learners write well, their vocabulary and grammar will be improved accordingly. You have any method to advise us to be good writer or any website for writing learning? It's so nice to refer from you.
Thanks a lot Tanya
Vy
I haven't got much money ( means "now", "these days" or something like that)
I don't have much money ( means "usually", "always", "I am poor" or.... because The Present Simple Tense describes regular action)
Is that clear?
Tanya said:
I am typing at the moment (now, right now)
I have started answering your question just now. ( means I haven't done it earlier)
Do you feel the difference? Hope so.
As a matter of fact, I haven't answered your questions earlier because I haven't noticed them! I am really sorry. I have to be more attentive. There is one more thing I'd like to say. If you, or someone else, have questions related to vocabulary (i.e., how to use some words), please, place them on the page "English synonyms", OK?
Mir Jalal said:
Mir Jalal said:
Simple. I easily found her house or I found her house easily.
Progressive. He was still thinking what to do. ("still" can be placed only inside the predicate)
He was impatiently waiting for her or He was waiing for her impatiently
Perfect. I have never been there ("never" is used only inside the predicate)
Perfect Progressive. I have already been living here for 2 years (in American "already" is used like that. In British it is used at the end of the sentense)
As you can see, there are some adverbs that we use only inside the predicate. They are:
often, usually, generally, seldom, rarely, sometimes, never, ever, just, already, still and maybe a few others.
There are also some adverbs that can be placed only at the end of the sentense. They are:
lately, recently, yet. For example:
I have seen him at the exhibition recently.
Besides, if you use the words much, little, a little as adverbs they can be placed only after the complement(s) or after the predicate if there are no complements in the sentense. For example:
He drinks much. (there is no complement in this sentense)
She speaks English a little.("English" is a complement)
Besides, I want to say that there is no need in comas in your examples.
Hope, I've answered your question. Please, feel free to ask any others.
Kieu said:
Same about sent. 8. In the sents.7 if you say "the others" it means there are limited number of the chairs (like in the room or in the store where you are buying them at the moment). In the general case it is better to say "others".
Thank you so much for your explanation. I understand it better now than before. I would try to answer these questions but I am still not sure if I answer them correctly. Need more practice to understand more.
An exersise.
1. This реn isn't working. Please give me another one.
2. If you are still feeling thirsty, I'll make another pot of coffee.
3. Two cars in the yard are white, the others are of different colors.
4. He doesn't need these books, he needs the others.
5. There are 7 students from Japan, others are from Iran, and the others are from places.
6. The water in the glass is warm. the other in the jug is icy.
7. This armchair is more comfortable than the others .
8. I need not this but another book.
9. Your composition is good. the other ones are much worse .
10. The soup in my plate isn't tasty. I should add some salt to the other in the pot.
1. count singular nouns.
a)we use another if we mean any other object of the set. It means that we have at least three same objects. For example:
She came from another city (there are many cities and we don't spesify what city she is from)
b) we use the other when we mean spesific object, i.e the last one of the set. For example:
I have two friends. One of them is Nick, the other is Jack.
I have 3 children. One of them is in the 3d grade, another is in the 6th, the other is a student.
2) Cout plural nouns.
a) we use others if we mean some part of the set. For example:
Some people in my country speak Russian, others speak Ukrainian (there are also people who speak other languages. I can't use the others in this sentense)
b) we use the others when we mean the rest of the set. For example:
There are 5 people in the room. Two of them speak Ukrainian, the others(the rest 3 people) speak Russian.
3. non-count nouns.
a) we use other meaning the part of the set (not all the rest). For example:
This water is dirty. I need other (some other but clean)
b) we use the other meaning all the rest. For example:
The water in the glass is warm. The other in the jug is icy.
We can use these words as nouns or adjectives. For example:
I don't need this book. I need another. (noun)
I don't need this book. I need another one. (adjective)
These cars are new. The others are old (noun)
There cas are new. The other ones are old (adjective)
Please, pay attention to the endings in the last two examples.
As to the sentense you wrote the right use of the words is:
another, another, another, the other
I hope I've answered your question. If not, I'll try to do it again. I will place an exersise here. Try to do it and I will check it out. Please, feel free asking other questions.
An exersise.
1. This реn isn't working. Please give me .
2. If you are still feeling thirsty, I'll make pot of coffee.
3. Two cars in the yard are white, are of different colors.
4. He doesn't need these books, he needs .
5. There are 7 students from Japan, are from Iran, and are from places.
6. The water in the glass is warm. in the jug is icy.
7. This armchair is more comfortable than .
8. I need not this but book.
9. Your composition is good. ones are much worse.
10. The soup in my plate isn't tasty. I should add some salt to____in the pot.
volkersmom said:
So much grammar!!!