In winter 1794 two students Luigi Zamboni from Emilia Romagna country side and Giovanni Battista De Rolandis from Piemonte, decide to link the red colour of Emilia Romagna to the white colour of Asti, with green colour, the colour of HOPE.
More years later it became the definitve flag with vertical strips, as the French flag, in remember of the revolution and the freedom as French people gained after the Bastiglia conquest.
Hi Mohammad,
I'm doing well.You are more than welcome!
Ruzan
MohammadSoroushPour said:
Hi Ruzan!! how are you? thanks for complete information!!I agree with tanya!!!
you have a very grammer!!!
thanks again for information!!
Hava a nice day
Hi Ruzan!!
how are you?
thanks for complete information!!
I agree with tanya!!!
you have a very grammer!!!
thanks again for information!!
Hava a nice day
Hello Tanya,
I hope you are doing well!
Thanks for your kind comment.You are so sweet.
Actually I'm leaving in Yerevan,but I've spent a lot of time out of my country,especially in the USA.
BTW.The Ukrainian flag is beautiful and colors are so peaceful!
Wow! Your English is really very good and professional!How comes you know it so well? Did you live in English speaking countries?
Thank you for the story about Armenian flag. It is always interesting to find out something new.
Ruzan said:
My country is Armenia!
The Armenian flag has proportions 2:3 and was officially adopted on August 24, 1990. It is a tricolor banner consisting of three horizontal stripes that are blue, orange, and red. Ancient versions of the banner contained depictions of animals.
The Armenian flag has colors that are rich in meaning. The color red symbolizes struggle for survival, the highland, the blood of patriots, freedom, and Christianity. Orange stands for creativity. The blue stands for peaceful skies. We all should be proud of our country and flag! Dear friend,thank you for this opportunity.Your flag is
beautiful indeed!
The Armenian flag has proportions 2:3 and was officially adopted on August 24, 1990. It is a tricolor banner consisting of three horizontal stripes that are blue, orange, and red. Ancient versions of the banner contained depictions of animals.
The Armenian flag has colors that are rich in meaning. The color red symbolizes struggle for survival, the highland, the blood of patriots, freedom, and Christianity. Orange stands for creativity. The blue stands for peaceful skies. We all should be proud of our country and flag! Dear friend,thank you for this opportunity.Your flag is
beautiful indeed!
Dear Bill! Thanks for your understanding. As a matter of a fact, I am a thinking person but... I am a woman! And emotions sometimes contradict my common sence. (Ha-ha!) I am so glad you got everything right. In fact, I was looking forward to your reaction. Thanks once again.
As to your comment. Well, I think the same and what you've said is 100% right, it is exactly what I meant. Freedom is not anarchy. It is freedom of choice together with law and order. It is great responsibility. When I mentioned the policy of your country, I didn't mean Iraq. I sincerely believe that Saddam Huseyin's government had to be deposed. Besides, that war was started by athority of UNO and American people (there was a pole if you remember). The declared reason was really false. It is my understanding that it was demonstration of American weapon's superiority over Soviet. Besides, it was because of the cheap oil. In 1991 it was just a military show. You ought to have seen our leaders in Cremlin after that! I believe, it was right action. But, on the other hand, so many innocent people were killed! Unfortunately, any superior goal can't be achieved without victims. Actually, I meant different. America really wants all countries to be free and democratic but it never asks if those counties want freedom or if they are ready for it.
As to the stripes, I am not sure but I was told what I had written.
Don't you think that this discussion is going to become the one between the only two of us?
However, I think it will be useful for others to know more about the US and not from the news and movies. How do you feel about that?
Bill the English teacher said:
Tanya, No problem. I appreciate the truth and you made me think and check what I had said. And you are so correct about our strong sense of freedom in our democracy. I do not always agree with everyone else in my country, but I do respect their freedoms in politics, religion, speech and any other pursuits in their lives. One of the problems with so much freedom is that we must balance our free choices with responsibility. Some people in the USA use their freedm to make bad choices that affect other people. Freedom does not mean we can do anything we want. Our choices affect others. But I must say, once you have savored freedom it is hard to give it up. I think you may be correct in that some people may not realize that the USA is definitely a democracy. And we support democracy around the world wherever it rises from the people.
Unfortunately our government sometimes interfers in other countries in the name of democracy when it really wants other things as well. That is why as an American, I did not agree with the war in Iraq since it was started under false assumptions (weapons of mass destruction) and the thought that all Iraqis wanted a democracy. I personally hope democracy works for the Iraqis. We will see.
But now I know that the white stripes represent the founding fathers. I truly believe I can learn from other people about my own country even if they were not born in my country. Thanks for your comments and I truly enjoy you as a person and a half-American sister who is also Ukranian.
Tanya,
No problem. I appreciate the truth and you made me think and check what I had said. And you are so correct about our strong sense of freedom in our democracy. I do not always agree with everyone else in my country, but I do respect their freedoms in politics, religion, speech and any other pursuits in their lives. One of the problems with so much freedom is that we must balance our free choices with responsibility. Some people in the USA use their freedm to make bad choices that affect other people. Freedom does not mean we can do anything we want. Our choices affect others. But I must say, once you have savored freedom it is hard to give it up.
I think you may be correct in that some people may not realize that the USA is definitely a democracy. And we support democracy around the world wherever it rises from the people.
Unfortunately our government sometimes interfers in other countries in the name of democracy when it really wants other things as well. That is why as an American, I did not agree with the war in Iraq since it was started under false assumptions (weapons of mass destruction) and the thought that all Iraqis wanted a democracy. I personally hope democracy works for the Iraqis. We will see.
But now I know that the white stripes represent the founding fathers. I truly believe I can learn from other people about my own country even if they were not born in my country. Thanks for your comments and I truly enjoy you as a person and a half-American sister who is also Ukranian.
Dear Bill! I might have been too hard! I was in black mood. I am really sorry! I hope, you will excuse me. My problem is that I don't remember dates. It has always been my drawback. As to British revolution, I am sure it was in the 17th century(I mean the one initiated by Cromwel agaist Charles, the First). As to France, I didn't mean the Paris Commune ( it failed) but the earliar attemt. In any case, it is of no matter because what you said is the verity. The US presented the world some new kind of democracy and that is 100% right. I have been to many countries including the US where I lived, Canada, Australia and most of European countries. They are all democratic but Americans have different perseption of the word "freedom". I wonder that many people in our Club don't know that the US is a democratic country ( because of your country's policy). Democracy is the greates achievement of the mankind. Excuce me for being tough!
As to the stripes on your flag. When I lived in the uS I had to attend the courses where we learned American history, national symbols and so on. I am not sure that it is right but I was told that 13 stripes on the flag symbolize 13 first states that signed the Declaration of Independence. Red stripes symbolyse main batteles during the War for independence. And White stripes symbolyze Fathers-Founders. I was also told (and I believe that because I have a few of such notes now) that they are portraied on the back side of an annyversary two dollar note.
Anyway I am sorry for misleading others and being too hard! Hohestly, I didn't mean that. I do love your country despite all negative feelings I might have .
Bill the English teacher said:
I may have caused confusion in my statement. What I said about our democracy is that "It was the first democracy of its kind and was an experiment." I was careful to use the term of its kind because the very first democracy may have developed in Athens, Greece. But the US democracy developed largely out of the representative government practices of the New England states and it was the kind of democracy which no longer accepted a monarchy with absolute or even limited power. The Treaty of Paris with England was signed on September 3, 1782. The treaty was ratified on April 17, 1783, and it officially recognized American independence. The Constitutional Convention held in 1787 approved the Constitution of the United States of America with its representative democracy.
The French Revolution occurred later during 1789–1799 and was actually inspired in part by the success of the American Revolution. Unfortunately turned out to be a failed democracy but it was finally successful in the third attempt, the Third Republic.
England actually had its first attempt at a "republic without a monarchy" in 1646 being run by a council of state elected by parliament, but it didn't last. By 1688 It went back to a monarchy in the form of a constitutional monarchy where the monarchs had to follow the constitution but the monarch had ultimate sovereignty in parliament. Democracy seemed to evolve in England in steps as opposed to a single bloody revolution. I know historians disagree as to when England truly became a democracy. Some say the Reform Bill of 1832 as it granted the right to vote to male land owners whose proprety was valued at £10 or greater, and the unelected House of Lords could refuse to pass a bill ., but others disagree.
But as far as the 7 stripes of the American flag being the founding fathers, I did not know that. So my Ukranian, half-American sister has taught me something new. Thank you.
HI
Miss.Tanya and Mr.Bill
Thanks for nice explanation about your country and important Democracy!!
i think democracy is a issue today!!!
i don't know that in U.S. aren't or are democracy!!but i think this issue is important democracy is necessary for all of human!!!
anywhere if a man/woman life that place,that place must must have democracy!!
it's not important that place in U.S. or France or Africa or ....!!!
completely again thanks my teachers for sharing knowledge about flag and democracy!!
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In winter 1794 two students Luigi Zamboni from Emilia Romagna country side and Giovanni Battista De Rolandis from Piemonte, decide to link the red colour of Emilia Romagna to the white colour of Asti, with green colour, the colour of HOPE.
More years later it became the definitve flag with vertical strips, as the French flag, in remember of the revolution and the freedom as French people gained after the Bastiglia conquest.
I'm doing well.You are more than welcome!
Ruzan
MohammadSoroushPour said:
how are you?
thanks for complete information!!
I agree with tanya!!!
you have a very grammer!!!
thanks again for information!!
Hava a nice day
I hope you are doing well!
Thanks for your kind comment.You are so sweet.
Actually I'm leaving in Yerevan,but I've spent a lot of time out of my country,especially in the USA.
BTW.The Ukrainian flag is beautiful and colors are so peaceful!
Thank you for the story about Armenian flag. It is always interesting to find out something new.
Ruzan said:
The Armenian flag has proportions 2:3 and was officially adopted on August 24, 1990. It is a tricolor banner consisting of three horizontal stripes that are blue, orange, and red. Ancient versions of the banner contained depictions of animals.The Armenian flag has colors that are rich in meaning. The color red symbolizes struggle for survival, the highland, the blood of patriots, freedom, and Christianity. Orange stands for creativity. The blue stands for peaceful skies.
We all should be proud of our country and flag!
Dear friend,thank you for this opportunity.Your flag is
beautiful indeed!
As to your comment. Well, I think the same and what you've said is 100% right, it is exactly what I meant. Freedom is not anarchy. It is freedom of choice together with law and order. It is great responsibility. When I mentioned the policy of your country, I didn't mean Iraq. I sincerely believe that Saddam Huseyin's government had to be deposed. Besides, that war was started by athority of UNO and American people (there was a pole if you remember). The declared reason was really false. It is my understanding that it was demonstration of American weapon's superiority over Soviet. Besides, it was because of the cheap oil. In 1991 it was just a military show. You ought to have seen our leaders in Cremlin after that! I believe, it was right action. But, on the other hand, so many innocent people were killed! Unfortunately, any superior goal can't be achieved without victims. Actually, I meant different. America really wants all countries to be free and democratic but it never asks if those counties want freedom or if they are ready for it.
As to the stripes, I am not sure but I was told what I had written.
Don't you think that this discussion is going to become the one between the only two of us?
However, I think it will be useful for others to know more about the US and not from the news and movies. How do you feel about that?
Bill the English teacher said:
No problem. I appreciate the truth and you made me think and check what I had said. And you are so correct about our strong sense of freedom in our democracy. I do not always agree with everyone else in my country, but I do respect their freedoms in politics, religion, speech and any other pursuits in their lives. One of the problems with so much freedom is that we must balance our free choices with responsibility. Some people in the USA use their freedm to make bad choices that affect other people. Freedom does not mean we can do anything we want. Our choices affect others. But I must say, once you have savored freedom it is hard to give it up.
I think you may be correct in that some people may not realize that the USA is definitely a democracy. And we support democracy around the world wherever it rises from the people.
Unfortunately our government sometimes interfers in other countries in the name of democracy when it really wants other things as well. That is why as an American, I did not agree with the war in Iraq since it was started under false assumptions (weapons of mass destruction) and the thought that all Iraqis wanted a democracy. I personally hope democracy works for the Iraqis. We will see.
But now I know that the white stripes represent the founding fathers. I truly believe I can learn from other people about my own country even if they were not born in my country. Thanks for your comments and I truly enjoy you as a person and a half-American sister who is also Ukranian.
As to the stripes on your flag. When I lived in the uS I had to attend the courses where we learned American history, national symbols and so on. I am not sure that it is right but I was told that 13 stripes on the flag symbolize 13 first states that signed the Declaration of Independence. Red stripes symbolyse main batteles during the War for independence. And White stripes symbolyze Fathers-Founders. I was also told (and I believe that because I have a few of such notes now) that they are portraied on the back side of an annyversary two dollar note.
Anyway I am sorry for misleading others and being too hard! Hohestly, I didn't mean that. I do love your country despite all negative feelings I might have .
Bill the English teacher said:
Miss.Tanya and Mr.Bill
Thanks for nice explanation about your country and important Democracy!!
i think democracy is a issue today!!!
i don't know that in U.S. aren't or are democracy!!but i think this issue is important democracy is necessary for all of human!!!
anywhere if a man/woman life that place,that place must must have democracy!!
it's not important that place in U.S. or France or Africa or ....!!!
completely again thanks my teachers for sharing knowledge about flag and democracy!!
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