The second time I got married, my wife's aunt brought a tub and went inside with me and my wife to witness the consummation of our marriage. I turned to my wife and whispered in her ear, "Why is she here? what is that big plate for?" My wife answered me that she was going to be with us to wash our feet together and then witness the first sexual intercourse between us. Of course, I disagreed at once and told her to tell her aunt to get out of the room. Then my wife brought a white scarf and put it under her. I didn't care about it and we finished our first night with screams and that red fluid came from her into that white cloth. Then my wife happily and proudly took that piece of cloth to her mother which she showed it to her neighbors and friends and relatives. I was shy when I knew about it. Basically, traditions, habits, and religions differ from one society to the other. In our communities, the chastity or virginity of the bride depends on her hymen. Her husband is the man who opens that membrane. Do you agree to have other people present on your first night of marriage? Does it mean absolute masculinity and feminity for both sides? What do you think? Is witnessing a consummation of marriage considered a strange tradition?
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I can't believe this kind of horrible traditions still happen from civilized people in the 21st century, are you serious Mr Dara?
Ifcharisto polly Melody! They have no right to sit and watch live sex. That is considered a sin. Thanks Melody for your comment on that discussion!
Melody said:
Prevyet Winnie The Pooh, what a lovely description! (excessive attention ....), of course, what is going beyond the normal or the usual is not good. Thanks, my dear good friend!
WinnieThePooh said:
Mashkoor ya Chocoo aala almaalooma. Ana mabsoot minak jidan. Shookrun marah tanya. What you have said is true and logical, too. the hymen can be ruptured by many other means like the ones mentioned before. With the development of technology, the hymen can be restitched. Doctors can plant another membrane or capsule to compensate the ruptured one. In the eyes of her man, that woman will look 100% sealed and intact. You can deceive them easily, but this is not the point. The point is, why do we do that? Thanks, Chocoo! Can I be one of your friends? Thanks!
chocoo said:
No one agrees to this shameful traditions. It is good to give a direct opinion. Thanks, Williams!
Williams said:
Halet chetore doste khobam, Mohammad? Khush mazza! We are a moderate nation. Quraan said, ((Thus, we have made you a moderate nation .....)). Surat Albagra verse 143. We are not less than the other. The few people who are still not living in this century or maybe, they are from the previous centuries, they are defaming us and our reputations among the world. Look at those fanatics who call themselves Muslims. We see them daily in the news. by the way, I like that phrase very much, (excess vs negligence). Some people consider virginity is the symbol of chastity or purity. God bless you, my dear good friend!
★ Muhammad A. said:
Khaili mumnoon Bijan! If you visit us, you will witness more than that. I do not want to dissuade you from coming to us, but in our Arabic world, we are very late. Our minds are not active enough to move from previous shameful past to a clean and promising future. By the way, I am not speaking in general. I am targeting some of us, not all. It is very bad to witness two couples on their first night. I can even say, it's a sin. Thanks, Bijan for your comment!
Bijan said:
Shookran bizzaf Clever! Wa lakin alash ya Clever? Shunu kandeero? Ana ma bigit nahdro haka. Excuse my Moroccan dialect, it's not very good. Islam does not permit that. It could be a sin from the Islamic point of view because you are looking illegally at something. The husband and the wife can be naked with one another. Therefore, no third party is supposed to be with them while they are making love, especially on their first night. Thanks, Clever for your nice comment!
clever said:
Feelin dank Rose! Thanks for your intervention. The habit or tradition is still going on. I thought that it was in our Arabic societies, but according to the grandmother of teacher Tanya, it was done in Western societies as well. By the way, religions do not allow such insolent or rude manners. Our grandfathers and grandmothers created that in their sick minds. I am referring to the bad ones. Most of our ancestors were very good and clean inside their minds and thoughts. The decent woman keeps herself from being exposed to any sexual relationships before marriage. You might disagree with me at this point. However, any doctor can stitch or mend the entrance or the orifice of that place by any mean. This relationship between man and woman is very sacred and intimate. but let me summarize by saying, if we clean ourselves from inside and be honest with them and with the others, I suppose, we do not need to perform such bad and wicked habits and traditions. Rose, can I be one of your friends? Thank!
Rose said:
Allo ee dakuyu auchytei Tanya. I really appreciate your efforts, you and your respected husband in explaining this matter. Your grandmother's story was right. In her days they used to do it. Here, we are still doing it. No religion or constitution permit that. It is just impudent and it could be insaneness, as Mr. Danny said. Your grandma mentioned something which was funny and we wonder whether those people were good and in their healthy shape. To bring faulse blood or any stain to let the people see it when they come to the bride's house. Teacher Tanya, the whole matter is controlled by our conscience. I am very glad that you have given and explained to the members an old and weird traditions or habits that were performed in the past. Unfortunately, some nations still doing them. I repeat my gratitude to you and your helping husband.
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