Online and text abbreviations have their place in our modern era, and in the right situation (a chat room or text message) they are relatively acceptable.However (I am going to be quite unpopular for saying this) I don't think it is wise for English learners to use many of these 'lazy words'.Acronyms like LOL (laugh out loud) and BRB (be right back) are okay, as long as everyone is aware that they have no place outside a chat room or a text message, and they certainly don't belong in formal writing.It is the lazy typing and phonetic shortening of words that can create bad habits for learners of English.Some examples of these are:Thnx/thx = thanks.Lyk/lke = like.Plz = please.Ppl = people.Jst = just.Coz = because.Maybe those of us who are native speakers, or advanced level learners, should avoid sharing our lazy online habits with Learners in the EC chat rooms, a beginner might mistake these 'abbreviations' with correct spelling.I'm sure many of you might not agree, please go easy on me!
I soooo agree with you! I also don't like reading text messages like these. I often chat with native speakers from a community I joined after my classes at Preply.com ( http://preply.com/en/skype/english-native-speakers ) and this is a common pet peeve. It's lazy and annoying, too.
I am a native speaker, and you opinion is not wrong.
However, I think learners of English should (and do) learn contractions, this includes both formal and informal contractions. Contractions are an important part of our language, and do belong in their rightful place, so please don't be afraid of using these in the right situations.
(message me if you have any questions about formal and informal contractions)
Thank you for you comment and for avoiding 'online abbreviations'.
Let's use this sort of English to natives. I'm, learner. are you? If it is, you have to adopt good habits. I have learnt English as follows :
write ' I ' and not ' i ' ( otherwise 0/20 )
write ' English, French ' instead of 'english' 'french' ( if not my mark = 0/20 )
say ' thank you ' ( thanks is common but this is not good English ) so my test = 0 / 20.
I'm a hard working, meticulous and respectful of my teaching.
Do you want me to speak like this now?
I enjoy for becoming member of this club to move forward to achieve success.
my only goal : to be fluent.
I prefer rather to leave to the confirmed and natives between buddies for this practice of spoken English.
However it's obviously that each his own.
To conclude in my opinion know meaning of slang,contractions,expressions but don't use them. Do I not right?
I think 'wanna' is somewhere in the middle, In one aspect, it is a good example of connected speech (quite important to those advanced learners) and it sometimes viewd as an informal contraction, so It has a place in speech, but not in formal writing. The exeption here would be in direct quotes, and creative writing.
Being a lazy person I tend to use abbreviations but not too much since I do not go to the main room regularly.. Still it sometimes cause confusion for beginners..
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To Dayne
when you use "i.e" or "AFAIK" or any very common abreviation I agree with you.
However, when you write "wanna" "gotta"
Those are "contractions" used to talk to some one. (not to write).
When you write any email to any learner
"u r" or any kind of abbreviations like that,
you will agree that this is very informal, right?
"I am a native speaker" you said.
We are not,
so we ought to observe the normal process of learning.
I passed a diploma at Pattaya in Thailand where I live.
imagine us (pupils) writing so in written examination ,
and using contractions in oral.(maybe accepted)uh!
No, we would have flunked the exam. (friends and I)
imagine yourself sending an email or mailing written this way in the work or business.
fellow members,
what are you learning this beautiful language for?
to talk to some dunces who claim to can speak English?
or to immature friend on IM network? (chat)
Ok, Do so as it is the common way of practising.
As for me I long to speak formal English (UK) properly to travel
make a good impression among a world of smart adults.
If I were younger I would like to be promoted in a good job, wouldn't you?
To Josanne Salvaleon
I agree with you, this is quite painful
"This is a sort of English I can't put up with" source "Sir Winston Churchill".
I love English and I have been studying so that I may fulfill my dream.
Being able to speak the British language easily, concisely, and clearly.
Well, to each his own after all.
I soooo agree with you! I also don't like reading text messages like these. I often chat with native speakers from a community I joined after my classes at Preply.com ( http://preply.com/en/skype/english-native-speakers ) and this is a common pet peeve. It's lazy and annoying, too.
However, I think learners of English should (and do) learn contractions, this includes both formal and informal contractions. Contractions are an important part of our language, and do belong in their rightful place, so please don't be afraid of using these in the right situations.
(message me if you have any questions about formal and informal contractions)
Thank you for you comment and for avoiding 'online abbreviations'.
Let's use this sort of English to natives.
I'm, learner. are you? If it is, you have to adopt good habits.
I have learnt English as follows :
write ' I ' and not ' i ' ( otherwise 0/20 )
write ' English, French ' instead of 'english' 'french' ( if not my mark = 0/20 )
say ' thank you ' ( thanks is common but this is not good English ) so my test = 0 / 20.
I'm a hard working, meticulous and respectful of my teaching.
Do you want me to speak like this now?
I enjoy for becoming member of this club to move forward to achieve success.
my only goal : to be fluent.
I prefer rather to leave to the confirmed and natives between buddies for this practice of spoken English.
However it's obviously that each his own.
To conclude in my opinion know meaning of slang,contractions,expressions but don't use them.
Do I not right?
But again, it can lead to bad habits if a beginner learns 'wanna' before the correct 'want to'
Yes, It is a tricky topic.
I think 'wanna' is somewhere in the middle, In one aspect, it is a good example of connected speech (quite important to those advanced learners) and it sometimes viewd as an informal contraction, so It has a place in speech, but not in formal writing. The exeption here would be in direct quotes, and creative writing.
Well done,
I enjoy reading your lines.
I'm thinking along the same lines.
In addition, by way of example :
' u ' (you)
' I wanna go ' (at least about 'written English ' or ' practice of slang ' especially by learners
is a way of learning to repress.
Personally, this is a way of learning English I don't put up with. To disadvise absolutely!
How to improve one's English with such habits?!
It's up to you learners!
I think the trend is turning back around :)
Thanks for commenting!
I agree :)
Being a lazy person I tend to use abbreviations but not too much since I do not go to the main room regularly.. Still it sometimes cause confusion for beginners..
Thanks for sharing the sweet thought
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